Blumer

Wednesday, December 18, 2002

Dear Garry:
As you know, I have been using CA-EDTA for prevention and for metal detox, but not for symptomatic CV patients as yet. I am aware of Blumer and Reich's studies on lead, automobiles and CA-EDTA, but I am not aware of any study of theirs' that involved SYMPTOMATIC cardiovascular patients. Bob Rowen says he learned at your last conference, and then just published in SECOND OPINION, that Blumer had such a study and that 68% had very good reduction of symptoms and 22% more had fair reduction of symptoms for a total of 90% improvement. Very sick people are piling in now wanting CA-EDTA. CAN YOU REFERENCE THIS STUDY FOR ME? BETTER YET, IF YOU HAVE THE REPORT, I'D GLADLY PAY FOR A COPY.

If what he says is verifiable, I will cast out mag EDTA and begin symptomatic patients on CA-EDTA.

Secondly, I'm very upset about Dr. S. suggesting (on your Gordon Research website), that magnesium EDTA does not mobilize calcium from plaque. It may be true that it does not ALWAYS mobilize sufficient calcium from plaque, but it surely does work "big-time" in some. In the chapter on Magnesium EDTA Chelation in "Cardio-Vascular Drug Therapy" by Messerli (1996 I think) they present a case where the UFCT Calcium score went from over 15,000 to about 7500 with 30 treatments (yes, printed in an orthodox textbook).

Thursday, December 19, 2002

I hear you, BUT there is a million dollar malpractice judgment in Florida saying that EDTA doesn't pull plaque off blood vessels and poor Dr. Kadile in Wisconsin (this months Townsend letter) just got dinged for the same claim.

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT CHELATION IS GOING TO BE WIPED OUT OF EXISTENCE IF WE ALL DON'T GET AWAY FROM THE CLAIMS THAT CHELATION REMOVES PLAQUE.

UNTIL SOMEONE OFFERS A CREDIBLE STUDY that Mag EDTA does what you believe it does (and who knows, maybe you are right????), but until then there are some pretty credible legal arguments against your position.

NOTE THAT I SAID LEGAL and NOT MEDICAL but for the moment LEGAL RULES and if you want to keep Chelation alive, keeping that as your prime focus may save the day.

Feel free to add a footnote saying that there are isolated cases where calcium scores decrease BUT THAT this is not the mechanism of action that we use to justify Chelation. I only know what I read in the papers!!!!

Thanks for your candor.
I'll try and fit in your point of view in future writings (I'm trying to be a team player and until the fat lady really sings I'm open to all input).
Thanks.

Friday, December 20, 2002

I understand, but WHERE IS the evidence that CA-EDTA helps C-V Disease in symptomatic patients? That's ALL I want to know. Please, somebody, show me the study, paper, letters, publication, article... something. Supposedly Blumer published something. Spell it out; what's the article and publication?

If you and Garry are telling doctors that there's 86% or 90% less cardiovascular symptoms after a CA-EDTA series, then all I want to know is exactly where you are getting these figures. I am simply trying to find the reference. I wish to see if there was a reporting of CA-EDTA used upon symptomatic cardiovascular patients. I believe it is in the writings of Blumer and Reich and I wish to read it for myself. Do you have the reference?

Saturday, December 21, 2002

OK, nothing that I've personally written says anything about SYMPTOMS - I've never used the word although I will in a future article seeing that it's this important???? You must have read it on Garry's massive website. Just because he has my one article with his other 1000 doesn't make me a co-Author of his website.

Therefore, Garry, please answer his question and let's get back into the holiday spirit.

I can tell you personally that I have had symptomatic patients lose their symptoms this year on CA EDTA. I truly believe that heavy metal detox with CA EDTA has an effect on blood flow even though its not dissolving plaque.

I'm anxiously awaiting Garry's response in order to bring closure to this. Enjoy the seekend.

Garry did present me with Blumer's article about CURING 68%, and helping reduce symptoms in another 22%, of MILD (my take was MILD to MODERATE) cardiovascular problems. GOOD! Enjoy the seekend yourself.

Sunday, December 22, 2002

Happy Holiday Season to All and it is wonderful having FRIENDS that we can argue with and still love and respect one another!

It is MUCH safer to assume that technically, symptom relief is all we offer with any therapy- that way when someone or our patients is found dead and his autopsy shows what every autopsy I have ever heard or seen on chelation patients - TONS OF PLAQUE - then we will be ok since with our now routine recording of all consultations then the recorded record never indicates that we offered MORE than symptomatic improvement. The $29 million NIH Chelation study is trying to find out: do we actually do MORE for our patients than relieve their symptoms of chest pain and shortness of breath and leg cramps and cold feet and early gangrene and will they need a few less Stents or bypass operations and will there be a few less deaths or MI's in the chelation treated group? During the 5 years and $29 million study, all of us merely have OPINION.

I will however stick my neck out and state that I am convinced that by my current approach (see Dick Cheney article attached) by addressing inflammation and coagulation with powerful things like FYI, ENDOZYM AND ESSENTIAL DAILY DEFENSE as found in LOW dose in Beyond Chelation given separately to push dose up to therapeutic levels, that I will have a SIGNIFICANTLY lower death rate than anyone out there with any program going. Read the literature and see HOW MANY DIE ON THE BEST DRUG PROGRAMS GOING TODAY and use that in your discussion with your patients - the facts are astounding. The cardiologist loses MANY patients each year particularly post MI, and now they are having a big argument in deciding who has really had an MI. Read the literature and you can make monkeys out of YOUR competition.

So whether you use short or long chelation or HBO or prayer or drugs or surgery - my bet is that with MY program patients will have FAR lower mortality and morbidity but none of us can CLAIM this YET. If you carefully review my slides as expressed to IOMA and play that 2 hour tape or read the COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT of my IOMA talk, you can quote a lot and then you can express cautious optimism as your professional opinion to your patients. Click on Dr. Gordon's IOMA and you are on my website looking at 200 PowerPoint slides that MIGHT help you practice OXIDATIVE more than the old chelation but keep the chelation part alive for METAL DETOXIFICATION with the oral chelation therapy (like 15 a day EDD - Essential Daily Defense that gives you 2 GM DAILY of EDTA but MUCH more in the way of heparin like effect- and the GARLIC and other things in there like Malic acid and carrageen in there is VITAL to the outcome of virtually NO HEART ATTACKS EVER AT THAT HIGHER DOSE). Anyway, oral chelation augmented by the PUSH which keeps patients coming back for LIFE if you read why in my IOMA lecture!!

However, since people have been known to DIE of a MI -with PERFECTLY CLEAN ARTERIES - we all have to be very circumspect in what we say to patients which is why I urge everyone to purchase audio tape recorders and give every patient at every visit a cassette tape of your consultation - including phone consultations (Radio Shack device for perfect phone recording is $80 - either full cassette or micro cassette).

This little discourse that Dr. JG has stimulated may help us in the future to more accurately inform our patients and colleagues what we think we are doing for our patients.

Anyway the good news is that the FDA has thrown in the TOWEL in their fight against nutritional supplements and this will change MANY other things.

Best of the Holiday Season to you and yours.

Sincerely,
Garry F. Gordon, MD,DO,MD(H)

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