Clarify IV Warning

Garry

When did this warning come out? I have been using the 10cc and less IV push of the Ca EDTA for a month or so, without any problems. I also use the 10cc in 150cc SW, with all the usual add-ons and heparin, run in about 20 min.

If this warning is recent, I will do the 5 min IV push and give ALL IVs by the 30-min drip method.

I am convinced that this method of treatment is VERY efficacious and safe. Patient acceptance is superb.

I would appreciate your input re this matter.
Keep up the good work.

Sorry, I did NOT mean to excessively concern you!

I think that it may only be 1 in 100 patients or maybe 1 in 1000 that will complain of burning after the IV PUSH and, of course, that MAY not justify the extra trouble of using a 20-30cc syringe and the extra time needed.

However, if we DILUTE the 10cc up to 20cc by adding 10cc of sterile water that would meet MY suggestion for diluting 50%. I believe this would help avoid any complications that could lead to problems for what is increasingly becoming clear is the proper future of chelation.

I am suggesting this for that one in 100, or 1 in 1000 patient that MIGHT complain of vein burning for a few minutes after getting the IV push. I feel that to avoid any unhappy patient justifies using the slightly larger syringe and taking the extra 10 seconds to draw up some sterile water or o.45 NS or 5% glucose or ANY diluent so that the concentration factor does NOT cause needless discomfort for any patient.

After all, the sodium form ALWAYS took 20cc to get the 3Gm so adding some water to make 3Gm take 20cc is not a bad precaution.

There will be some doctors that will NEVER see anyone complain of discomfort, yet when just for a test, I injected my foot vein it was very uncomfortable for 5 minutes, discomfort that I felt would have been avoided with a little extra dilution, or going more slowly. However, on purpose, to test the system, I had FORCED it into a small vein on the back of my foot, 3 Gm in 5 seconds.

There was also a non-specific slight ache over the vein extending into the lower leg for 2-3 days, nothing red or inflamed, but I had wanted to test the concept to see if ANY harm could be done, so I had maxed-out the concept - small DISTAL vein with little additional blood flow to dilute it, took the full 3 GM, given as rapidly as it could be forced in!

I would NOT do it that fast to anyone else, however over 90-180 seconds with a 50-50 dilution, I felt NO discomfort. Therefore, this seems to be a concentration issue.

We will all still see GREAT results whether we take 3 minutes or 20 minutes, which is necessary when we start to include all of the ingredients found in a Myer's cocktail of the traditional chelation mixture. This switch to Calcium EDTA, given more rapidly is changing the course of chelation NOW!

I am NOT saying everyone needs to go to 20 minutes in a bottle; I am merely trying to avoid that unhappy patient that can hurt this wonderful new approach to chelation, because it hurt them for even an hour.

Sincerely,
Garry F. Gordon, MD,DO,MD(H)

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